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04-21-2008 @ 12:58 AM                          
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 So, I'm watching a college game today and we had a strange play.  It's not really about scoring because the umpires made a decision that was scored, but I wonder if they got it correct. Here's the situation.  

Batting team is down one run in the 9th.  Runners on second and third, one out.  Batter hits a fly ball to right field.  Catch and the runners advance -- runner from third scores the tying run (we think) runner from second advance to third.  But, the catcher throws the ball to the pitcher, who, when not in a pitching motion but on the mound, throws the ball to second base, and the runner is called out for leaving the base early for the third out.   So, does the run count?  

I'll give everyone a chance to chime in before I tell you the umpires decision.  I will say that the game was protested.

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04-22-2008 @ 11:22 PM                          
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 Well, the umpires conferred and decided that even though it was "technically" a double play, because there was a delay on the appeal between the second and third out when the run scored, they allowed the run.

As it turned out, the home team came back to score a run in the bottom of the 9th so it was moot.  

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05-02-2008 @ 3:58 PM                          
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 I think this addresses it:

7.12 Unless two are out, the status of a following runner is not affected by a preceding runner's failure to touch or retouch a base. If, upon appeal, the preceding runner is the third out, no runners following him shall score. If such third out is the result of a force play, neither preceding nor following runners shall score.

The run should not have counted (if the appeal was handled correctly, which is in some doubt judging by your description).

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 Actually, no.  Rule 7.12 deals with the following runner (in this case, the runner at second base) being called out on appeal.  It specifically notes that the preceding runner (in this case, the runner who was on third base) is not affected by the following runner being called out.  

The appeal described is what is referred to as a "timing play", not a "force play".  Thus any run that scored ahead of the runner on second base would count, as long as the runner touched home plate before the umpire called the other runner out on appeal at second base.

As an example, assume the bases are loaded with one out.  The batter hits a fly ball to right field, which is caught.  The runners on second and third both advance.  Now the defense attempts to throw out the runner from third base at the plate, and the throw gets away.  After a couple of errors, all three of th<SPAN STYLE='display:none'>
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